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And Here's Why. (626) 443-7451, Sales Support However, you should install a PTU to help you completely solve the issue. We went thru the Ga lemon law prgm, but the FORD Corp has dragged their feet from day 1. Generation one units are the worst offenders as they have an additional problem to contend with: Ford no longer provides new solenoids for them. Ford Fusion Harsh 5th Gear (Avoiding: Failure Solenoid Differences: Ford 6F35 Gen 1 vs. 2, Serviceability Report: Ford Fusion Hybrid. Advise the customer that this vehicle is equipped with an adaptive transmission shift strategy which allows the vehicle's computer to learn the transmission's unique parameters and improve . 0000006853 00000 n
Currently has 50k km on it, no issues or hard shifts or anything, but I'm thinking about doing a drain and fill at each oil change, which would be once a year, only put about 10k a year on, mostly the wife short tripping to work everyday. Can a used car for $5,000 be decent from private seller? The Transmission made its debut in 2009 when Ford installed it in Ford Escort, Mazda Tribute, and Ford Mariner. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. This 6F35-A SHIFT KIT Valve Body Repair Kit fits 2009 to 2013-1/2 Ford, Lincoln, Mercury and Mazda vehicles equipped with a GEN1 6F35 automatic transmission. If the pressure feeding the solenoids is too high or too low, their output will also be too high or too low. And in some instances, the mfg already knows the issue. Anyone else with the same problem? Notice that the word coolant is in quotation markswe did that to catch your attention. Because of the intensity of the work involved, you should seek the services of an expert mechanic if you are not one. Update from Jun 21, 2019: Looking on line and noticed the manufacturers of my transmission has identified the fix for my transmission And if this were not enough, some applications use a transmission fluid cooler coolant control valve and a fluid heater coolant control valve as seen in figure 6. They were forced to recall and extend warranties.. Once all these, along with other issues are taken care of, the unit goes out the door. So, if you dont properly flush or replace the heat exchanger, replace the cooler bypass valve along and check engine coolant flow after a rebuild, it becomes an expensive risk. The cooling system of the 6F35 Transmission varies from one car model to the next. Also in the mornings the car will slam into reverse even if I am on a level parking lot with e brake on and everything. Upsized P235/60R17 Cooper AT3 All Terrain Tires For Another .75" of Clearance. Update from Jun 15, 2019: Continued: M-F 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM PST This electronically controlled 6-speed automatic can suffer from a variety of issues, which mostly stem from poorly designed components. The most common cause of this condition is towing heavy loads, driving in stop/go traffic, or on mountain roads where the transmission has to shift a lot. 1). It would be nice to have a freaking transmission dipstick to check the fluid, but you know Oh mine does the same thing actually. We went on vacation in April 2017 to Gulf Shores and the car transmission started to hesitate during highway driving while acceleration and braking in some heavy traffic. Not every issue warrants a full-out recall effort. BMW 535i Twin Turbo Problems Expensive Issue for BMW Owner, Polaris Power Steering Problems Reasons and Ways to Fix, Ford 5.0 Cam Phaser Issues Locating and Fixing the Problems. 0000001511 00000 n
Example: "Bad Brakes", "Toyota Recall", etc. This new gasket and spacer are used in place of the silicone sealant the OEM uses. These cookies do not store any personal information. This problem is further compounded by locating the correct calibrated band number solenoid. Rebuilding a modern gearbox that is worn out (and doesnt have a specific fault) and make last for any reasonable mileage is borderline impossible but some places do manage to do that, but here its important to have some warranty as often youll end up using it. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. Also I seen remanufacterd transmissions online for $2400 but where do I have them sent who installs them cause they want the old one back am I just on my own to find so.eone to put it in if I go that route? I've read many articles on here and other sites, especially from mechanics, and they all said there should be a recall on the PTU, and that the fluid in it should be changed every 30,000 miles. I know every manufacturer has issues somewhere and I guess Ford has a problem with customer service. This 6F35-A SHIFT KIT Valve Body Repair Kit fits 2009 to 2013-1/2 Ford, Lincoln, Mercury and Mazda vehicles equipped with a GEN1 6F35 automatic transmission. Glad we have the extended warranty. In addition, this valve will not delaminate and create future bore wear problems like the OE coated valves do. Take for example the various cooling configurations found within Ford Fusion vehicles alone. Common complaints with this transmission are 2-3 cut loose, no reverse, TCC slip as well as various gear ratio and solenoid performance codes. Codes: P0729, P0731, P0732, P0733, P0734, P0735, P0741 and P1744, Drop-in USA-made hardened steel two-piece pressure regulator valve, Oversized USA-made hardened steel solenoid regulator valve, Drop-in USA-made hardened steel TCC regulator valve, scarf cut sealing ring, spring and O-ring (for sizing only), Improved valve body separator plate and gaskets. We don't sell/share your email. The last dealership even called Ford Corporate in Dearborn, MI. The 6F35N is standard equipment for a ton of small engine Ford products and they are starting to hit shops across the country. I guess struggling to find a gear was a bad way to put it. mB{68M7BY_9O"!p-\j/hfU-v>[c!})d:8FkBdU0 0000005320 00000 n
This universal tool-kit works for all GEN2 6F35, 6T30, 6T40, 6T45, 6T50, 6T70, 6T75 and 6T80 transmissions. It doesnt seam to struggle to find gears but after the research I did it seems to be normal. CarKiller.com copyright 2020 all rights reserved. Thought I would share. As for harsh reverse, you shift solenoid B may be going bad. The deteriorating condition of the cooler bypass leads to the car experiencing shifting issues, eventually leading to transmission failure. % %PDF-1.4
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I'm with the others. 144036B) for Ford 6F35 transmissions, generations 1 and 2. Most importantly it doesn't try to launch me into space when it shifts into 3rd. It ended up being a loose bolt on the engine mount. The Transmission made its debut in 2009 when Ford installed it in Ford Escort, Mazda Tribute, and Ford Mariner. 8F35 Transmission - Harsh Upshift/Downshift And/Or Harsh Engagements - Built On Or Before 10-Sep-2019 19-2331 12 November 2019 Model: Ford 2019 Edge . I wanted the warranty to cover the turbo and Ecoboost engine because I was afraid they would have powertrain issues. Jeep Clutch Recall Involves Gladiator and Wrangler SUVs, read stories from drivers who praise our work. l`m&mLP(" s?(h! Will definitely be doing the fluid change with my upcoming oil change that I was about to do anyway. 0000094421 00000 n
The Explorer was given to me as a replacement company car with 42,000 miles. To address the TCC problems, a new TCC regulator valve is included that is fitted with a scarf cut sealing ring at one end which restores the valve function without reaming the bore. There is something seriously wrong with this transmission to allow such a performance condition to effect the pleasure of driving this Explorer. However, If the fluid hole is low when the transmission stops, some fluid from the circuit will drain and this is what supposedly causes the hesitation in the transmission until fluid is completely pressurized back into the transmission circuit after starting. In effect, this strategy helps improve the gas mileage of the car and also reduce the harmful greenhouse emissions. Since then, one can find the 6F35 Transmission on a wide range of cars. Unsubscribe any time. Figure 3 shows the location of the 1-2-3-4 solenoid A damper in the main valve body for Generation 2. The purpose of the solenoid regulator valve is to limit the pressure going to the solenoids. M-F 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM PST This is something many drivers look out for when shopping for a car. Numerous customer service rep turn overs, dropped the ball and now we are on our 3rd, 10 day payoff faxed from the bank. The purpose of the solenoid regulator valve is to limit the pressure going to the solenoids. 6F35 Transmission Problems Any Serious Issues? Lastly, quite often the D2 checkball blows through separator plate which ruins the plate and results in the no reverse as well as the 2-3 cut loose conditions. Front vehicle photos 1986-2018 Autodata, Inc. dba Chrome Data. The Ford 6F35 is very similar to the GM 6T45. This was a 2017 Ford Explorer fleet car issued as a company to another employee who left our company. 2). Some of these 6F35 transmission problems include irregular shifting behavior, slipping between gears, delayed shifts, hard shifts, and the complete . All types of particulates will get trapped within its tightly mesh webbing as seen in the cutaway provided in figure 4. . If the transmission fluid hole is high when the transmission stops, fluid circuit will retained pressure and no problems should occur during first driving experience. It delays/shifts a bit harsh from 2 to 3. For use with
#9. Then, all those little microns get sucked up and passes through the filter media going directly into the pump taking out the pocket and gear, PR valve and TCC valve bore. Fits 6F35 GEN1 2009-mid 13. Ford 6F50 - The Other Six-Speed Transmission When GM and Ford collaborated to develop the new FWD six-speed transmission family, the results differed due to design and suppliers used, and each company subsequently made different modifications. Valve body replacement cost: $500 to $1000. The 2016 Lincoln MKC has 2 problems reported for hard shifting. It also happens when the car is towing and under heavy acceleration. But if you're under warranty, it wouldn't hurt to take it in for a professional look to ease your mind. M-F 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM PST Car was parked in the Ford Dealer parking lot over night to have the transmission technician check the car the following morning. 6F35 Code (DTC) P0829 5-6 Shift; 6F35 Code (DTC) P0830 Clutch Pedal Switch A Circuit; 6F35 Code (DTC) . If this is not properly flushed or replaced, overheating of the fluid will certainly occur along with a lack of cooler flow compromising the lubrication of the transmissions internal components. Car still under warranty. This, mostly front-wheel Transmission boasts better fuel efficiency while also lowering CO2 emissions. It almost makes me a little afraid to do that as things might be grinding or doing damagebut there is no sound or awkward feelingjust the shifting delay for about one second. Codes: P0729, P0731, P0732, P0733, P0734, P0735, P0741 and P1744, Drop-in USA-made hardened steel two-piece pressure regulator valve, USA-made hardened steel solenoid regulator valve, Drop-in USA-made steel solenoid regulator bushing, Solenoid regulator valve spring, spacer and retainer, Drop-in USA-made hardened steel TCC regulator valve, TCC regulator valve scarf cut sealing ring, spring and O-ring (for sizing only), Improved valve body separator plate and gaskets. Dealer does not acknowledge that there is a problem with the transmission! It wouldn't have taken them that long to check it. Sonnax has released a new stator support bushing (part no. SK 6T70-G2,
When flushing the cooler circuits, ensure that the cooler bypass valve mentioned earlier is replaced. Mine hasn't broke or anything but maybe you're just lucky. The condition usually got better after the first couple cold shifts; however, 1>2 and 2>3 were always a little firmer than the rest, even after warm-up. It is just outside the warranty coverage (64,000 miles). If your car is not displaying those symptoms, do not go to the Dealership for an update. Press J to jump to the feed. Extremely loud! I did some research and they seemed to pretty reliable cars. The 6F35 is designed to match the 2.5L L-4 engine. This is necessary to prevent more fluid from being fed to the solenoids than they can effectively regulate and limit what max line pressure output is. 6F35 Code (DTC) P1707 Transfer Case Neutral Indicator Hard Fault Present . The solution: The recommended remedy to this problem is to modify the valve body by deleting a hole located on the separator plate. It also finds gears so much quicker. Messages. these hesitation events should be deemed a normal characteristic and does not cause any abnormal wear or durability concerns. Ford told me my 2017 Ford Explorer Sport needed a new PTU and it would cost me $1904 to repair it. endstream
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I never had it checked out. Mark all read, Topic Icons:
I have seen this posted other places but posting to see if anybody has found a permanent fix. Active
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JavaScript is disabled. Transmission fluid was BLACK. That's what I did and they blew me off. I baby my vehicle and put in the best products to maintain it (Amsoil, K&N, etc.). Ask questions or send a hint for future articles on the author's page. Other drivers report experiencing the same sluggishness and hesitation feel when the car is at a rolling stop. Solved
that Ford says is considered normal operating, no fix needed as follows: Problem Some Ford vehicles may experience sluggish acceleration or a hesitation feel during a rolling stop, followed by a harsh bump or slip feeling. I'm a first responder and have already missed one structure fire because I have no vehicle to go to calls. it seems 6f35's installed before Jan 2010 have problems. The 6F35 Transmission from Ford is one of the ingeniously designed transmissions from this American car maker.