Mainly because the courts have to give every chance possible and all the services necessary to the bio family to try to preserve the relationship. It always feels like punishment at all costs. Lack of impulse control is also another symptom that might explain why a mother would stop at night to help a stranger flagging her on the road. They removed them and proceeded to interrogate the poor girl until she gave them what they needed. Her three small children, Christie, 8; Cheryl, 7; and Danny, 3 . Many troubling elements of the case were discovered after the trial, but there was enough during the proceedings to be asking questions. That towel should have been soaked in their blood not hers. Because she had driven that area for years for her work. A very reasonable request that was rejected. Christie could not speak but after some rehab, she said repeatedly that she did not know who shot them. I agree that the phone call from Angel was totally inappropriate. I would also like to express my disbelief that the same judge presided over both the child welfare case and the criminal one. Her family members were quite capable of taking care of the children. Just my opinion. She goes on to say that she has deep regret and mourns the loss and death of her children. Robert was a married man in Arizona with whom Diane had been having an affair, back when she was still living there.
Seems like former husband, Steve Downs, should've been the custodial The american system often reminds me of what Charles Dickens talked about in his novels. They had high hopes for Dianes future and this bad boy was not part of it. Steve Downes has voiced the Master Chief in the Halo games since his 2001 debut, and his voice has become synonymous with the character.However, despite Jen Taylor being asked to reprise her role as the . That conflict of interest alone would incline Christie to testify against her mother. Im sorry but your article is tosh. answer the question why didn't steve downs get custody, which will help you get the most accurate answer. There isnt a whole lot known about where Steve Downs is these days. Back in Phoenix, Arizona, in Moon Valley High School, Steve Downs met Elizabeth Diane for the first time. It was flawed. Their marriage was described as tumultuous, with Downs allegedly disappearing for long periods of time with her children. I am not sure of the exact timing of Dianes accusations but the Downs family did not only include the grandparents and they were never considered even before this nonsense. Who are Steve Downs children? It was also said at trial that the shooter would have been left handed, which was not the case for Diane. I am publishing your comment because once in a while, I need to post the pitiful representation of true crime readers who made Anne Rule a rich author. Their first child, Christie Ann, was born in 1974. Her attorney, James Jagger, did a poor job for Diane. I had never heard of this case and fell upon several videos that had me completely convinced DD was a narcissistic psychopath. The towel and a girl who had a stroke, was separated from her family and was constantly questioned without being recorded or accompanied by a loved one and testifying to facts that do not match the testimony of the forensic expert is not being reduced to conjecture? And of course, she added her own brand of paranoia, which is to be expected considering her personality disorder and what she went through. The lawsuit against Ann Rule was thrown out as unfounded because after reading her book they could find no inconsistencies She sat thru the entire trial AND used actual court transcripts. You have that part absolutely right, so why was this protocol ignored? The judge who took away her children presided over her criminal trial. Nothing came from Diane herself. Foote ruled in favor of the prosecution and against the defenseon most of the admissible evidence questions including all the nurses notes about Danny talking about a man shooting him but admitted Christies reports about her mother shooting her. It did not matter that they had no evidence; they did not like her attitude and she was going to pay for it. Her mom is still alive and would love to have contact but respect that they wont. Maybe I should have elaborated more about this comment. I do not believe that this type of abuse would occur today. The tape of Christie and her adoption by the prosecutor are facts. When a unicorn and hungry like the wolf make their way into a court room during a high profile trial, its a red flag. The goal is always to keep family ties intact. She followed all the correct Parole Boardprocedures for two years with no hearing. Why am I not arguing the facts of the trial? If I included the ones I dont post, it would need more than a like or dislike button. The bitches own daughter identified Downs as the shooter. This is also a faster route to give the children permanency, and is far cheaper for the child welfare system that is always strained by the budget. If you use this mixed water, you can lift off a gunpowder stain.. Foote denied the motion and declared you have an attorney, use him.. Thats the problem with high profile cases. So glad you wrote and provided this information. Basically, I dont believe the site owner has produced enough proof of anything. So when Dr. George Suckow from the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was called as a States rebuttal witness and he made a professional diagnosis of Diane as histrionics, antisocial and narcissistic, he openly said in court that he interviewed Diane for 1 hour and read evidence presented by the state to make his diagnosis. In the beginning, detectives believed Diane's story, but they were not prepared for the actual story narrated by Christie, who survived the incident. Strangely enough, a woman who was seen for 8 months by a psychologist and declared to be in shock and suffering from a mood disorder, would now be assessed by the State hired psychiatrist to confirm the label Hugi conveniently made up during trial. The photo of Hugi I used is the one you find when you do a search online for Fred Hugi who prosecuted Diane Downs. Only in Hollywood and in Ann Rules books, would you find such fantasy: Relevance? Become TUKO.co.ke ambassador get a branded T-shirt, hoodie or water bottle at our TUKO Shop! Even Ann Rule in her book, keeps mentioning that they only had a few months to get Christie to talk, otherwise they could not keep her away from her mother any longer. The only reason they kept her in prison even if she had all the right documentation and support, is because she is high profile. Therefore, those jagged bones were floating in a cloth wrap, merely resting in a cloth sling. You cannot skip due process because of mob mentality. Be the first to get hottest news from our Editor-in-Chief, Check your email and confirm your subscription. McPherron: And you had no contact with her . In fact, Diane had consulted a psychologist after the tragedy and after months of consultation, she was never diagnosed as a sociopath. Which is itself a redundant practise: the blogger repeatedly states that Downs should be released. why didn't steve downs get custodylagu sekolah minggu bahasa inggris Opinion Fox News's blackout of Jan. 6 points to a hidden crisis for Democrats The not-so-shocking revelation that Fox News will not carry House committee hearings about the insurrection is yet another sign that right-wing media will go to extraordinary lengths to shield . He has also once again decided to defy . Ann Rule has always been sensationalist, and her books were almost unreadable at the end of her publishing days. But to convince this young and vulnerable girl to turn on her mother, they needed to isolate her from her family and work relentlessly on her confession.. This video of Jagger absolutely looks like the photo that you find on search engines for Fred Hugi. (This is why Foote was assigned the case. The blog tries to bring balance and more objectivity to a case that was TOTALLY one sided and still is. Her family supported her. This was very stressful. DA Pat Horton declared early in the game to the local paper that the search for the bearded stranger was not very high on their priority list.. She was found guilty. But in the case of DD, there were a lot of elements missing. I cant believe that it was allowed to happen, actually. It was kind of interesting to hear Mossimo Giannullis lawyer pleading to have his client sent home or put in general population because his mental health suffered drastically in solitary confinement because of covid after 56 consecutive days in solitary. The fate of Steven Downs, a 47-year-old nurse from Auburn, Maine, is now in hands of a 12-person jury in Alaska. She did diagnose her as suffering from cyclothymic disorder and treated her accordingly. If not from her high profile status, she would already be out. (witness statement the gentleman who was behind her for at least 10 minutes). And to say that her mental health has degraded is an understatement, but more reason not to keep her eternally incarcerated. The definition of deviant sociopath does not even exist in the DSM-HI: Downs lawyer at the time should have objected as the term was non existent. Nice to see this blog is still active in 2017, being a lot of groupsmessage boards and such, on subjects like this has no activity for years. And on this site, I mention that I take a restorative approach. Whenever your shoot a gun that many times and that close to the victims, theres going to be blood and powder residues. The states own witness, Dr. George Suckow and Dr. Polly Jamison denounced Prosecutor Hugis practice as improper and unethical (Appendix 101 and 104). Even more now with hindsight because of the gun and the fact that her daughter kind of recanted by demonstrating that if pushed, she will say what is expected of her. Or can have an accomplice. Nuts maybe, but not threatening. Meaning a trial where lying or failing to disclose exculpatory evidence by prosecutors is not happening. What I explain in the blog is that the fact that Foote is the one who removed the children from Dianes care is exactly why he should NOT have been presiding over her murder trial. They had their second child, Cheryl Lynn, in 1976, followed by Stephen Danial, born in 1979. You mention that her attorney should have raised objections. Yes, Christie said she did not know who did it. Would you seriously be confident enough to present your findings you mention in your article to Diane Downs children? High profile cases usually do not get the same treatment as regular folks. In Rules book, Diane is portrayed as a horrible selfish mother but her family and friends saw another version; she lovedher childrendearly and worked hard to be a good provider. After all, Cheryl Downs is basically serving a life sentence with no possibility of parole for her mothers crime. The children were in the hospital, it isnt like they could have taken them home. Someone said to me that any of us, if scrutinized under a microscope, would come out looking pretty bad. Do you remember it would have been around say November 19th of 82 that you would have left Charlene at one time? Now Diane Downs did not say any of this, but told a hard to believe story, and then changed it from one to two masked guys, etc. CK allowed DD to drive away despite the fact she could identify him and he had a gun? Fred Hugi was pretty upset when Ann Rule went Hollywood with his case. By the time Danny was born, they were having intense arguments about infidelity that Steve got convinced that he wasnt his biological son. Ann Rule did not leave a great legacy as far as honest reporting goes, and she is not the only one to have commercialized a criminal case for personal gain. That makes no sense. In reply to Kit I have researched the case and pointed out discrepancies and the fact that it was not the slam dunk that they were portraying. Do you remember a couple of days after that, December However, when all the details came to be understood by the police, Steve found out what really happened to his kids. Whether it tugs at your heartstrings or angers you to the core, these stories could have happened years ago, and they still take up space in your memories. You have a photo of Diane before the parole board.
Mother of Diane Downs Asks Oregon Governor to Review Case and I am not one sided. I went on ebay and ordered multiple stuff from the 80s, news footage, just to hear what she sounded like, because of all the talk in the book about her demeanor. And by the way, I wrote the blogs about Rule way before she passed. What happened to Diane Downs ex-husband? I was also stunned that she took the reports of all of Dianes ( mostly married) ex lovers as absolute truth and never once questioned that they might have been lying and retrospectively minimising their feelings for Diane to protect themselves. Right after the shooting, little Danny would ask the nurses, Why did the mean man shoot me? and it would be written down in the daily notes. A demonstration in court strongly suggested that the shooter had to be left-handed to have been able to shoot in the car at the right angle. The point is our trials need to be conducted fairly and based on evidence. Christie was the primary witness in the case against her mother. In her case it seems to be more a matter of punishment. There were good reasons to look at this mother, but the detective admitted on the stand that they stopped looking at anyone else after two weeks and the stranger on the road became a joke. http://www.dianedowns.com/Dr.%20Jamison%20affidavit.pdf. A group of ladies formed a group called HELDD which stands for Help Exonerate & Liberate Diane Downs. Is there any update? I had visited Dr. Billings site several times and it is too bad that it was removed. Accused of her side of the story what the state says how would it be possible for her to do what they presumed. And so, very quickly, they formed a relationship. Doing it without witnesses when she was so sick is underhanded. Then, 10 days after Diane was sentenced to life in prison plus 50 years, she gave birth to a daughter she named Amy Elizabeth. Most people described Dianes injury as minor or superficial but in reality, it was a very serious injury. Her power to manipulate is why she is where she is to begin with. Q. So the hell with no gun, no GSR, no blood and no witnesses except a sick child who denied knowing who shot them until she could not anymore and happened to be adopted by the prosecutor; making it look like she could never change her mind and reveal that she has no memory of the shooting and maybe have the case reversed. A new trial would be out of the question, so to me, parole would be the solution. It wasnt until Prosecutor Hugi said Dr. Jamison had labeled Diane a deviant sociopath that Mr. People tend to forget that the group of young women hanging out with Manson were deeply engaged in serious drug use and totally out of their mind at the time. So it was a relentless game totry to reel her in. Christie was only eight, had suffered gunshot wounds and was in shock. For the upcoming Halo TV show, original Master Chief voice actor Steve Downes was recast, despite Cortana voice actor Jen Taylor reprising her role from the iconic video game franchise. Again thats opinion, and neither balanced nor objective. Her daughter told the media she watched Small Sacrifices several times. Diane Downs was convicted because she didn't appear "sorry enough" during her TV appearances. No excuse there. I still dont buy her story. You can click here to read about the case of Alice Crimmins during which the lead detective was heard telling the other cops before the bodies of the children were ever found:You take the husband, Ill take the bitch.. Danny and Christie survived the attack while middle child, Cheryl, died from her injuries at the time. Our legal system is not perfect. She even provided the police with her own sketch. We make them president!!!! Unfortunately, he hasn't been as outspoken as people expected, considering the gruesome details of the crime committed by her ex-wife. He was very irresponsible and probably could not handle them financially and emotionally. This whole tale is just unbelievable. It wasnt simply her demeanor that got her convicted. The GSR? Just state that at the beginning of the blog. Fred Hugi looks nothing like Jim Jagger. In reality,the whole caseturned out to beno small sacrifice for Diane Downs, but it was a huge victory for the State, the media anda very lucrative deal for theQueen of crime fiction herself; Ann Rule. John Shea who played Fred in the TV movie Small Sacrifices even looks like him. And in fact this would have been about the time that Charlene broke a bottle of liquor that you had. Right away, the police asked her to go back to the crime scene even thoughshe did not want to leave her children behind. Now in hindsight, seeing footage on youtube, especially the interview she did with the reporter Anne Jagger, the things she says and facial expression is exactly described in the bookhad to find the section in the book, but on that note, Anne rule did site that interview correctly. Yes, Im sure this stranger wanted to kill her kids but only wound her, who, coincidentally, had a towel handy neatly folded on her wound. And the motive? She even became a surrogate mother to make money and provide two parents the opportunity to have a child. If you have an opinion on drugging a child to make her talk, a judge presiding over a criminal case when he was in family court and removed the children from the defendants or the forensics, ballistic, etc. So either way, it would not be so far fetched that someone said he was the shooter.A little investigation would not hurt. Also, she became pregnant without Steve Downs' permission. As we have reported in great detail in the past, Diane Downs could not possibly have committed the crime of shooting her children, or there would have been evidence of gunpowder residue and blood. They were tons of witnesses that saw him at work. They claimed to have found two lead cartridges in Dianes rifle at home that supposedly matched the ones used during the crime. He has lived a life outside the public eye and hasnt ever come out to give interviews to the media about his ex-wife. There are many cases where investigators jump to conclusions either because in their gut they think they know or pressure to make an arrestand i guess with all the attention this case got they gave their gut and the public what they wanted. Also on old footage of the trial, as there was no cameras aloud, the drawing of Christie Downs from court artist also complies with the testimony given in the book, as far as her pain and crying. Cheryl Lynn followed in 1976, and Stephen Daniel was born in 1979. But there was a lot left unsaid about this relationship. Fred Hugi is a man of the highest integrity and I hope that Dianes surviving two children finally found the love and stability they had been denied by their natural mother. Theres a lot to be said here, still. Besides, none of those diagnoses are illegal. Diane Downs is guilty beyond any doubt and I do not believe that her daughter was coached. Yeah, Ive noticed a lot of people thing Jim Jagger is Fred Hugi. At what point during these meetings did she start calling him Dad? Mr. Downs must have had a bad feeling about Jagger because before trial: speculation No matter how horrible people think she is. He actually was the one who suggested theybecome intimate after many friendly, platonic conversations. Id like to challenge some of the bloggers claims. I will agree that it was suspicious that Diane got away with one bullet in the arm, even if the injury was severe, but she was outside the car and many scenarios are possible to that effect. Celebrity Author Covers Case Ann Rule wrote 'Small Sacrifices,' later released as a movie. I would like to believe this is the truth. Distractify is a registered trademark. Nowadays, this insanity would never be tolerated.