Awaiting extradition, Turner drowned 13-month-old Zachary and took her own life as well. -, "**** (Four stars). Well, I was hurt in an, accident. In 2006, the press was there again to cover the issuance of a report on the death of, (Newspaper article; David on TV show being interviewed; Confederation, Unidentified Reporter: (Newscast) The government has received a scathing. Zachary didn't seem like. (A number of his male friends say that they asked, or would have asked, him to be their best man.) There are things to do, he said, and they try to enjoy life as much as possible. -, "Some of the week's biggest flicks aren't at Sundancefilmmakers have praised Slamdance film. Shirley and Zachary, then 13 months old, had been staying with the couple. With that kind of goodness, there is no limit to the possibility of transcending all manner of evil. I mean, she. You take it with you, but you move on, said David. But he was moved to honor his friend the best way he knew how, by making a film. And Im blessed to have David and quite frankly David is blessed to have me, said Kate. Had the case played out in the U.S. court system, they believe Zachary would still be with them. David Bagby, left, and Kate Bagby, right, celebrate with their son Andrew Bagby at his graduation from medical school at Memorial University of Newfoundland in June 2000. We were kind of like, `Well, we're not the best ones to be taking care of a child.' This report aired Dateline Friday, July 23. See details above! The Bagbys went to the morgue to identify their bodies. There was plenty of turmoil in the industry, but many shows continued to nourish, illuminate, and delight. (Shirley and Zachary at birthday party; birthday party), KATE: He didn't want to open presents, you know, he wanted to get, down. of a woman and a baby on the beach, and I lost it again. (Photo of Shirley; "Canada" on building; T.J. Shears walking), Mr. T.J. SHEARS: My mom was just like, `Oh, hey.' What kind of headfuck must that be? I said, `Do not meet her in private.' I couldn't see the point anymore. helped convince me that she would not hurt Zachary. Cpl. MORRISON: But was that what you assumed had happened? You know? They still have friends in the province, people Kate said they wouldnt have survived without. MORRISON: But Shirley would make it tough for Andrew to do that. Complicating things further, she soon announced that she was pregnant with Bagbys child. I got to go to the trial. Which is to say, the woman who killed Dr. Andrew Bagby is pregnant with Dr. Andrew Bagbys baby. murderer in check. Published by Statesville Record & Landmark on. I'm absolutely sure. Instead, the film's dramatic nodes are scenes such as the one in which Bagby's parents, David and Kate, recall going to identify their son's body. Mr. BAGBY: We first got to see him personally in family court. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) This is Shirley Turner, yes. Click HERE for ticket information. This movie is the kind of nightmare no one could dream up. KATE: And she went over in the corner crying, and I gave him back. The upbeat music stops and a little boy who speaks in that lispy slow muckle-mouthed way little boys do, asks, Why did Andrew get killed?. Information on who and where to write can be found on the "Support Bail Reform" page. This couple have endured more grief and pain that most people will endure in a lifetime. Because this is where you need it. Andrew, despite his obvious abilities, was turned down by every medical school in the country. If you didnt realize the importance of that, Kuenne mutes the film to let you process it. hoped Shirley Turner would be returned to the US to face a murder trial. Shirley Turner, awaiting, extradition for murder, was out of prison on bail. MORRISON: But Andrew did agree to meet Shirley in a nearby park. But you will come away believing in people. She. Subscribe here. Shirley. I was like, `Oh, OK, yeah.' The memory of their son and grandson are never far.. She would never go away. get a chance to have some of Andrew again. What a flaky person. (Photo of Kate, Zachary and Shirley; photo of David, Zachary and Shirley; photo of Shirley and Zachary; photos of Zachary with Shirley and Kate), Mr. BAGBY: Our usual policy was just to let her go. By signing up, you agree to our User Agreement and Privacy Policy & Cookie Statement. Shirley asked them to take custody of Zachary while she was gone. Mr. BAGBY: We fret and worried and everything. The album includes "Andrew", the 8 minute concert work Kurt wrote and recorded in Andrew's memory in 2002. Turner - the son of Andrew Bagby whom she gave birth to after Bagby's death. The apparent culprit was a woman named Shirley Turner, whom Bagby had dated but had broken up with on November 4th, in Latrobe, just before putting her on a plane to Council Bluffs, Iowa, where she lived at the time. They are simply good people. Plus: each Wednesday, exclusively for subscribers, the best books of the week. One of the first to meet Zachary was, (Photo of Zachary Turner; wedding dance; photo of Shirley and Zachary; photo. MORRISON: Shirley, meanwhile, seemed to be preparing for her, extradition, and perhaps she was looking for a way to exclude the Bagbys from. As religious as that may sound, that is a comfort. CORNER BROOK, N.L. any problem at all with them spending time with him, unlike my mother, Mr. SHEARS: I guess I just thought, well, they're kind of accusing her of, murder. Zachary, how's our baby today? to let out hints that Shirley Turner was the prime suspect. Mr. SIMPSON: He said, `You'll never guess who showed up on my doorstep at 5:30.' Home video captured what looked like a. typical domestic scene, but beneath these happy images lies a darker truth. We don't--we don't gush very much. MORRISON: Despite it all, the Bagbys were thrilled to be living, with Zachary. Only Kate and David, MORRISON: Perhaps the most irksome part of the deal with Shirley. In November 2002, when, Zachary was four months old, a Canadian judge ruled that a properly instructed, jury would likely find Shirley Turner guilty and ordered her incarceration, while awaiting a decision from justice officials to surrender her to the, United States. To revisit this article, select My Account, thenView saved stories, To revisit this article, visit My Profile, then View saved stories. And in the meantime, without that crucial piece of evidence to charge her with Andrew's murder, Shirley Turner quietly left US soil and returned home to Newfoundland. Newfoundlanders tend to trust each other, perhaps it's because, generally, With a skilled lawyer on hand to do Shirley Turner's bidding, the. "This is the purest, most intensely raw film I have ever seen of any kind, dramatic or nonfiction. Very, very serious. Dear Zachary recently won the Audience Award at the Sidewalk Moving Picture Festival in Birmingham, Alabama! I dont understand how that can be ignored.. Mr. SIMPSON: Andrew, you know you can do a lot better. And as tragic as this story is, that is also where its consolation lies: that Shirley Jane Turner destroyed everything around her in an attempt to extinguish the love she was incapable of experiencing herself, and in the end she couldnt. Kate and David Bagby traveled to Ottawa last week to speak as witnesses for the bill before the House's Standing Committee on Justice & Human Rights. When Kate reached down to wipe one away, she accidentally knocked out the plug used to mask his facial wound. I mean, the best man is really the groom. don't have these meltdowns and emotional scenes. After the pregnancy came to light, the film became a way to introduce Zachary to his father. KATE: I knew exactly what my son looked at before he died. The Bagbys were compelled to ensure what happened to their son and grandson never happens again. 7:30 I'll be at your house.'. Inspired by his mother's tales of interesting medical cases and wonderful patients, Andrew decided he would be a doctor. The other, their grandson, Zachary Turner. whose parents are charged with a violent crime. -, "To give you an idea how powerful it is, I'll just say that there was a lot of audible sobbing during the credits.and the first question in the Q&A started like this: "First of all, holy crap. That gave her a chance to do something useful for some people who needed it, said David. On December 4, 2009, Bill C-464 (our bail reform bill) was discussed on the floor of the House of Commons for a full hour, and MP Scott Andrews received unanimous support from all political parties in the House of Commons to advance the bill to the Standing Committee on Justice & Human Rights. I had this overwhelming feeling. will not hurt Zachary, period. (Photo of Andrew; cell phone towers; photo of Shirley; maps; suburban street; photo of house; newspaper clipping; photo of Shirley; maps; cell phone tower; Shirley in court; court documents; flashing police lights; American flag. Unidentified Woman #12: We won't forget their son. This abridged version was prepared personally by Kurt Kuenne in order to comply with CBC Newsworld's time constraints but preserve the film's impact while reaching a wider audience in Canada. In the early years, that included David writing a book, Dance With the Devil, about his sons and grandsons murders, and Kuennes documentary. I thought if I do that, I go to prison, maybe Kate. Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) You don't like this answer, but I'm going to, give it to you again. I only live a block away.' Authorities later determined his former lover Dr. Shirley Turner,. MORRISON: How did you find out what happened, how he had been killed? Based on the title alone, it sounds like one of those saccharine documentaries that only the filmmaker and the subject would ever really care about. Why would she say that if he wasn't? Mr. BAGBY: Shirley killed Andrew. to live with his father in a tiny coastal village hundreds of miles away. Mr. BAGBY: Without those cell phone records, they couldn't formally charge. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I do have a complaint, finally. How do you represent the fact that when you see a crime coming from a mile away you still cant do anything to stop it? HEATHER: I knew he'd been struggling with me moving on and dating other people. When Kate reached down to wipe one away, she accidentally knocked out the plug used to mask his facial wound. David Bagby will be signing copies of Dance with the Devil on Sunday, January 20th, from 3-4 P.M. at Dolly's Bookstore, 510 Main Street, Park City, Utah. The bill is called C-464 - An Act to amend the Criminal Code (justification for detention in custody). Mr. KUENNE: He liked playing bad guys a lot. The private member's bill was introduced by MP Scott Andrews of Newfoundland last fall after he saw "Dear Zachary" at a March 2009 screening in Ottawa and decided to do something about what he saw. On the 5th, however, Turner appeared back in Latrobe. MORRISON: When somebody tells you that your mother may have--was a suspect Mr. SHEARS: No, it has to be a mistake. It then played SXSW in Austin, Texas, where it left audiences stunned and in tears. They hadn't been identified, but it's obvious who they, MORRISON: He was right. You will laugh, you will smile, you will cry, and you might even want to stand up and shout at the screen. Mr. SIMPSON: Things people should know about Andrew, he was never late. keep him safe, which they feared was about to become even more difficult. Unidentified Woman #11: I love them very much. I can say it like that because even without a trial, the evidence was so damning we might as well have been next to her when she carried out the crime. Dear Zachary is now available on DVD! They are warm. In that time, it becomes clear that, thankfully, baby Zachary has his fathers penchant for emotional maturity and gravitates not towards his mother, but to his grandmother. It stays so close to Bagby and to the people who loved him that theres never any question that its their side of the story being recounted. Mr. BAGBY: The police didn't give us very much information, but they started. Purchase the book here: Amazon USA | Amazon Canada, To read more reviews, visit our Press Archive, ZACHARY'S BILL (BILL C-464) BECOMES LAW IN CANADA, (Click HERE to read a letter to viewers from David & Kate Bagby.). he was fussy at all. The committee passed the bill unanimously, which is how it came to be heard in the House for a final vote this week. Serious crime is rare in this country. The committee passed the bill unanimously, which is how it came to be heard in the House for a final vote this week. (SPOILER WARNING: Do not watch this short until you have seen Dear Zachary. I had a son I used, (Photo of young Kate; photo of Kate and David; photo of Kate and Andrew), KATE: And then suddenly you're in the pits, and then you have to learn that, MORRISON: Two weeks after Zachary's murder, the press covered a, Mr. BAGBY: (Press conference) We believe that the legal system helped her to, MORRISON: Charging the child protection authorities dropped the, ball, and that a disastrous bail system allowed a probable first-degree, (Zachary; court document; Shirley and Andrew). a--with a hand grenade in the kitchen with the pin already pulled.