Even the General Baptists and the Free Will Baptists denounce eternal security, thus the only two Baptist groups that believe in Free Will. All Catholics will not go to heaven is absolutely wrong. are the result of sin and poor choices, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 46. I agree some are or at least seem to be what most consider legalistic. 1. If you feel guilty for not having devotions 7 days a week, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 42. 5 Hypocrite! We believe that the strict, literal interpretation of the Bible makes us Baptists. If you might confuse KJV with KJB its the same thing but its a preference on how people might want to call it. You strain your water so you wont accidentally swallow a gnat, but you swallow a camel! 11. IF you are a single Independent Fundamental Baptist where do you go to meet other single Independent Fundamental Baptists? I truly dont understand this one, ha! Or preferring the KJV? 4. Simply not true. We had no money.. If you believe that that the wine referred to in the bible is nothing more than the fruit of the vine I generally agree with this part especially when it comes to the Lords Supper because wine from a biblical perspective is grape juice even though I still question if it is NOTHING MORE than the fruit of the vine. Abortion constitutes the unjustified, inexcusable taking of unborn human life. 11 The greatest among you must be a servant. 37. (Mat 22:37-40) Can you honestly say that this is of God. Their testimony is great Im sure they won more people to the lord than you. I remember a particular lesson in church about the rod and staff. Members come into the church personally, individually, and freely. I do into great detail about why I believe the IFB is cultish in practice. Or deciding not to clap for special music? Whats wrong with a tract rack? We just look for a biblical church to go to. The church never knew our problems but god did. https://baptistdeception.com/tithing/. Was so funny reading it, one thing that struck me is if an outsider were to read it theyd be incredulous, wondering how we stuck with it for so long. Matthew 6:14-15 God forgave my husband through Christ. When you finally get the blinders off let me know, we will rejoice with you. We are not affiliated with any man-made external organization be it a Convention, Association, Fellowship, or National Denomination. And Pastor of Bible-Believing, Fundamental, Independent. Im mocking IFB beliefs many of which arent scriptural. Hypocrites! Even when the family goes on vacation, we go to church. What your pastor told you is extremely dangerous and silly. I dont know what Daves intentions were. I was sincerely disappointed. Thanks. We believe raising your hands during warship is appropriate, but the Bible specifically says to bow the head 2 Chronicles 20:18. We believe in the autonomy of the local church free of any external authority or control. They are as tragic as they are true and yes the IFB movement went ver overboard on many standards and traditions. Just please be sure that your judging is fair. 23. Jesus Christ is the mediator between God and man. If it did then unsaved people wouldnt be able to forgive. We fellowship with sister churches of like precious faith and practice, and support missionaries sent forth by the authority of such churches. Well I am a little confused. Refusing to eat at a restaurant because they serve alcohol Theres nothing wrong with eating at a restaurant you just cant order alcohol, thats all. Id have more time to minister to the lost if I didnt have to work to repair the damage done by the IFB. Complete Guide to Christian Denominations: Understanding the History, Beliefs, and Differences by Ron Rhodes. If they are saved , I dare say they regret the day they walked into the very church you enjoy making fun of. (Genesis 2:24; Leviticus 18:1-30; Romans 1:20-32; I Corinthians 5:1; 6:9; I Thessalonians 4:l-8; Hebrews 13:4), We believe that human life begins at conception and that the unborn child is a living human being. For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: Ephesians 2:8-9 We will never attain that on this side. Everyone has health issues. I also KNOW the areas that Hes not pleased with as I choose to hold on to that which the Bible clearly states as sin. Some of these are very much right on the money. Growing up in a very conservative IFB church, I can personally attest to how accurate most of these were. The last pastor I had, at Mountain, would yell sometimes on his sermons to make sense of humor since most of his sermons were pretty funny but never pounded the pulpit. If you believe women shouldnt wear pants, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 12. If your pastor is telling you otherwise hes a heretic. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. If that doesnt raise red flags for you I dont know what will. Not of works, lest any man should boast. Independent Fundamental Baptist or Bible-Believing Baptist) are a particularly cranky fundamentalist branch of unaffiliated If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Any ways God is good and can use any church to reach anyone it all depends on if you as an individual will receive his free gift of salvation, because God is that powerful. I will say though having grown up in that environment, there was a HUGE sense of support from the congregation, I always knew that if I needed something, I had people surrounding me who would help. Jesus forgave me and Im going to choose to forgive others regardless if they want it. From my perspective turning people away from the IFB is turning them towards God. People need Jesuswhats the big deal? 33 Snakes! Preachers should not put their congregation under constraint. I dont see how. Anybody who opposes the IFB teaching is bitter Cant say that because anybody who opposes BIBLICAL teaching is spiritually blind because they dont know the truth. [4][5], A split in the New IFB occurred in January 2019, after Donnie Romero, pastor at Stedfast Baptist Church-Fort Worth (SBC), resigned after it was revealed he had hired prostitutes, smoked marijuana and gambled. We believe that the souls of the redeemed are, at death, absent from the body and present with the Lord, where in conscious bliss they await the first resurrection, when spirit, soul, and body are reunited to be glorified forever with the Lord (Luke 23:43; Revelation 20:4-6; II Corinthians 5:8; Philippians 1:23, 3:21; I Thessalonians 4:16-17). You might I forgot to mention my concerns on some of the other beliefs of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Church: They will trample the pearls, then turn and attack you. If your church allows no outside group of singers to perform at your church for fear that not all of their individual theologies line up with the churchs you might be an independent fundamental Baptist. Thats The Holy Spirit speaking to me. The abuse would continue and they would be dead and their child would be in foster care. This Bible is preserved for the English speaking world without error in the King James Version. You should read my article on that: https://baptistdeception.com/tithing/, Dont get me wrong but tithing is still scriptural, even within the New Testament. No government should interfere with the local church's preaching, activities, and ministry. Hypocrites! Would you go back and pet a dog after it bit you? (Acts 20:7, Hebrews 10:24-25). If you run into a church member at the grocery store and see that they have a bottle of wine or maybe a 6-pack of beer in their cart and you struggle over whether you should share this information with your pastor, you might be and independent fundamental Baptist! 18 And you say that to swear by the altar is not binding, but to swear by the gifts on the altar is binding. Even though I dont believe the churchs teachings anymore, Im very grateful for the care and support I received from the Baptists growing up. God forgave me because Jesus Christ saved me. I am also against body piercings as well. WebBaptist beliefs are seen as belonging to three parties: General Baptists who uphold Arminian soteriology, Particular Baptists who uphold Calvinist soteriology, and Independent Baptists, who might embrace a strict version of either Arminianism or Calvinism, but are most notable for their fundamentalist positions on Biblical 6. That is the only sin that cannot be forgiven. If you think that other than suits and ties for men is too casual for Sundays While I dont believe that you must dress up for church with suits and ties, however, I do believe we should honor God in His house by dressing up. You might be an IFB if Your child has went to church there 3x a week, his whole life, but when he leaves the church, your to have nothing to do with them. Christ is the o nly head of the church (Acts 13:1-4, 15:19-31, 20:28; Romans 16:1, 4; I Corinthians 3:9,16; 5:4-7,13; I Peter 5:1-4). However, the churches are united by a number of doctrines. If you believe that declining to spank your child is the equivalent to spoiling him/her, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist While God hates divorce, but we should help those who are divorce so they can grow spiritually. If you had one opportunity to send a lost love one time to any church , which would it be ? I dont believe they bought our loyalty, because we werent of any good investment. I read Matthew 23 just before writing. No member shall If you should cut your vacation short you should never miss church this has happened only once in my life when I went I was on my senior class trip. If people asked rather than assumed there would be a lot less reactions. Gods people are the Jews.. from Jew-dajudah. (Acts 2:41-47; 1 Corinthians 12:12,18; 2 Corinthians 6:14; Hebrews 10:23-25), Scripture mandates two offices for the local church: Pastor and Deacon. If this method were a stock, who would invest in it with such a low return. If you believe that your health issue is the result of sin in your life, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 49. Im open to discussions what Im not open to is people telling me what God wants me to do with my time and resources. I mean yeah, theres some truth to a lot of this. Im sure that this was meant to be funny but I can tell that you seem bitter. I love devotions with the Lord. My writing tends to be somewhat heavy and serious so every once in a while I like to add some humor to lighten things up a bit. Like a grenade strike, no commitment to understand or empathize, just broad and arrogant assumptions. Most people find it hard to swallow that anyone really thinks that way at all. Jack hyles was an adulterous heretic. If you believe that you can tell who the good Christians are and who the bad Christians are by looking at the fruit in their lives, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 51. Baptists are traditionally strong believers in Biblical authority. We believe that eternal life is the present possession of every believer (John 6:37-40, 10:27-30; Romans 8:1, 38-39; I Corinthians 1:4-8; I Peter 1:4-5; Jude 1, 2). If you believe that going to (or sending your child to) a college thats not approved by the IFB (e.g., Bob Jones University, Pensacola Bible College, Baptist Bible College, Hyles Anderson College, Tennessee Temple University) will cause you (or your child) to become worldly or will provide an undue worldly influence on you (or your child), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 29. [14], Tarrant County, Texas preacher Dillon Awes attracted considerable controversy for advocating that "every single homosexual" in America be lined up against a wall and shot in the back of the head. What is the Baptist Church, and what do Baptists believe? In 1974 Kenneth Chrismans father passed away. I wanted to marry my boyfriend, but I want to fix him first. 8. The ones that do apply, I dont see a problem with (ie, we do have a track rack and we do have a van that picks up from surrounding neighborhoods and I do enjoy attending church 3 times a week and would enjoy more if possible.) God divorced Israel but Not judah..Jesus is the Lion of the tribe of WHAT?? But I do know some churches practice free will offerings instead of tithing. King James is the inspired word of God While I do like the old King James Bible but King James Only is wrong because its misleading and its legalism. OK That list just brought back memories that I can thankfully laugh at now. I was married when I attended before and now as a divorced woman, I know I probably would be looked down upon. I aint got any place to judge anyone because in all honesty i have messed up in life a lot. I know you scoff at my pity but there it is. I found myself laughing at quite a few of these because they are things that I used to believe. Everything is about Him, He is a jealous God. I prefer Kjv! Me preferring the Kjv bible and believing its the inspired word of God is not incorrect. 4 How can you think of saying to your friend, Let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye, when you cant see past the log in your own eye? For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the lawjustice, mercy, and faith. According to the ADL "Anti-LGBTQ bigotry and antisemitism are fundamental to New IFB ideology, as demonstrated by the doctrinal statements on their websites and the content of their sermons. We believe that the New Testament church is a local assembly of baptized believers who have voluntarily joined themselves toge therto carry out the Great Commission. I have attended an IB Church my entire life (34 years). 23 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. OMG! The Pharisees were filled with hypocrisy and iniquity and my church is not. Is to help you find a bible believing church, an Independent Fundamental Baptist Church, that seeks to serve and honor the Lord Jesus Christ. However, it wasnt Baptists that ordained him and of the IFB folks I know, they are lukewarm to the Scofield bible. If you look down on people who are divorce That is absolutely wrong. The IFB is the one who is hurting the cause of Christ, just like the Pharisees did. 22 And when you swear by heaven, you are swearing by the throne of God and by God, who sits on the throne. Im pretty sure it WAS/IS alcohol because the bible talks alot about not getting drunk with wine.also take a little wine, etc.